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Adrianna Skori, founder and CEO of Kids Who Explore, shares weekly episodes covering all things exploring with kids, from simple walks outside to camping in the backcountry. Expect interviews with explorers from all over the world and lots of takeaways for your own future adventures!
Instagram: @kidswhoexplore
Facebook: Kids Who Explore
Website: www.kidswhoexplore.com
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![Ep. 43 Bathroom Breaks in the Outdoors [and While Camping]](https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/5576754/Podcast_Cover7j3mw_300x300.jpg)
Tuesday Nov 23, 2021
Ep. 43 Bathroom Breaks in the Outdoors [and While Camping]
Tuesday Nov 23, 2021
Tuesday Nov 23, 2021
“But, what if you need to go to the bathroom?” Where and how to go #1 and #2 in the outdoors, whether adventuring, or camping, can be a huge sense of anxiety for people. So, whether it’s simply squatting in the bush, or bringing a portable potty, we are here to share all the ways we’ve created toilets in the outdoors!
Portable Toilet Suggestions:
Go Girl: https://go-girl.com
Shewee: https://www.shewee.com
Luggable Loo: https://www.rei.com/product/876179/reliance-luggable-loo-portable-toilet
Lauren’s Awoken Unisex Urinal for Car: https://tinyurl.com/nj2swhke
Portable Toilets are great solutions for when you’re in busy areas, or you don’t want to be away from your child - you can use some in a car, in a tent, or hugged up against a tree.
If you choose to squat and leave nature in nature, remember to leave no trace – and carry out any toilet paper you may use. (www.leavenotrace.ca)
When Camping:
- use head lamp, and have bear spray
- bring mason jar, bucket, toddler training seat, or portable potty
- dig cat hole: rule is that it must be dug 200 feet away from water sources, walking trails, and camp sites (or carry out poop, like you would carry out dog poop)
For toddlers who are new to learning how to squat, you can support the toddler’s legs behind their knees, to help them form a squat.
Thank you to Scat Belt for sponsoring today’s podcast! Get your Scat Belt today to always have your bear spray accessible at www.scatbelt.com and on IG: @scatbelt
Today’s Hosts: @laurenrodycheberle and @cldowsett from @kidswhoexplore
Production: @kpmediaproductions. Music: @michaelferraro_music.

Monday Nov 15, 2021
Ep. 42 Why to Avoid Kid-Centered Activities with Michaeleen Doucleff
Monday Nov 15, 2021
Monday Nov 15, 2021
What if the secrets to parenting aren’t secrets at all? What if everything you need to know to raise intrinsically-motivated, helpful, kind, and generous humans can all be learned from the Maya in Yucatan, the Inuit in the Arctic circle, and the Hadzabe in Tanzania? We dive into this topic with Michaeleen Doucleff, PhD, but after this episode, we think you’ll want to dive even deeper!
Michaeleen Doucleff, PhD is author of New York Times Bestseller, Hunt Gather Parent. This is the parenting book of all parenting books, where Doucleff shares what she learned about parenting after visiting three continents with her 3-year-old daughter. You can also find her over at NPR, where she uses her expertise to cover a wide range of topics, all with science and health in mind. She currently lives in Alpine, Texas with her family.
Doucleff says her book isn’t just about parenting, it is also about how we treat other people, and how to relate to children in a different way than we do in Western culture.
Children Go With:
- In these places, it is normal for children to go with adults; children are integrated into the adult world
- Bringing children into your work world gets them to connect with you and learn! A lot of struggle American parents have is because kids aren’t used to working together with their parents/family unit
Why/How to Avoid Kid-Centred Activities:
- The vast majority of cultures don’t have kid-centred activities, because they don’t think kids need specific activities (In these cultures, usually kid “toys” are related to work)
- After kid-centred activities, kid behaviour can be very poor
- Allow sports and activities to be child-driven, meaning let them choose, and hopefully make it family-centred in some way, or allow it to foster independence
- Kids who aren’t over-scheduled are found to take more initiative in chores and homework
- Extra activities are, and should be seen as, privileges
T.E.A.M. Acronym (works best outside!!):
- Together (with someone older, who loves them)
- Encourage (versus force)
- Autonomy (allow kids to make decisions, but still expect them to help, be kind, and generous)
- Minimal Interference
The TEAM Acronym is extraordinary for kids physical and mental health.
How/Why to Avoid Bribery & Chore Charts:
- Bribery and chore charts don’t support kids in becoming intrinsically-motivated to help the family
- In cultures outside America, when kids are young, they don’t “shoo” the little ones away when they try to help (check out Hunt, Gather, Parent for the other two secrets to this!)
- Allow kids to be with you and help you, and start them with a tiny, but still meaningful task
Follow Michaeleen at:
Twitter: @FoodieScience
Contact her via email
Book Recommendation:
Hunt Gather Parent by Michaeleen Doucleff
Self-Driven Child by Ned Johnson
Check out KWE’s #patch4apurpose to support 1, or all 8, charities:
https://kidswhoexplore.com/product/original-explorer-patch4apurpose/
Today’s Hosts: @laurenrodycheberle and @cldowsett from @kidswhoexplore
Production: @kpmediaproductions. Music: @michaelferraro_music.

Monday Nov 08, 2021
Ep. 41 Holistic First Aid Kits with Katie Braswell
Monday Nov 08, 2021
Monday Nov 08, 2021
What’s in your first aid kit? Most importantly, do you have a first aid kit? Katie Braswell is here to get us thinking not only about all the things that should be in a first aid kit, but also all the ingredients we DON’T want in a first aid kit. Get ready to revamp your adventure pack!
Katie Braswell, of Wild + Well, is a Holistic Nutritionist, based in Boulder, Colorado. Katie’s specific areas of interest are preconception health, fertility, prenatal nutrition and supplementation, gestational diabetes, breastfeeding and postpartum care (focusing on nurturing mama and baby). She specializes in functional nutrition for families – especially the mama or mama-to-be who is looking to maximize their time adventuring with their little ones! She and her family love to adventure and are passionate about spending as much time as possible outdoors and in nature – so she has worked to master the perfect holistic, non-toxic first aid & adventure kit.
Don’t feel guilty about what you’ve used in the past, or what you have on hand now. You can start changing over your first aid kit by integrating one item at a time (or even as your items are used up!).
Some chemicals we want to avoid (hard on our hormones / endocrine disruptors):
- petroleum
- alcohols
- sulphates
- preservatives
Here is the link to help you build your non-toxic first aid kit:
https://www.livewildbewell.com/blog-posts-all/how-to-build-a-holistic-non-toxic-first-aid-kit
Some Quick Tips:
- Band-Aids: Aim for band-aids without latex and petroleum (Welly is a good brand)
- Sunscreen: Try cover up and use SPF-clothing more than not (stay away from oxybenzone in sunscreen. Katie is a fan of these brands for sunscreen: Beauty Counter, Supergoop, and Badger)
- For Burns & Stings: Calendula Cream, Aloe Vera Gel, Arnica Cream or Gel; Manuka Honey for Healing
- For Bug Bites & Headaches: Lavender
- For Anything Poisonous: Tea Tree Oil
- For Cuts, Scrapes & Wind Burn: Witch Hazel, Homemade Neosporin, Good Goo brand
- For Coughs: Zarbees brand
- Probiotic Brands: Mary Ruth’s, Thrive, Seed
- Electrolyte Brands: Element, Altima
- For Nausea: Chewable Ginger or Peppermint
- For Blisters: Mole Skin
- Some other items to remember: Cold packs, Scissors, Tweezers
*Carry Coconut Oil or Jajoba Oil as a carrier oil, for essential oils*
* Lavender and Tea Tree Oil can be a little bit of a natural hormone disruptor, if persistent exposure.*
Link to EWG Guide, to check “clean rating” for products:
Where to find Katie:
Website: https://www.livewildbewell.com
IG: @livewildbewell
Other Social: Live Wild Be Well
Thank you L-Bow Mittens for supporting today’s podcast! Find them on IG: @lbowgear or at www.lbow.com
Today’s Hosts: @laurenrodycheberle and @cldowsett from @kidswhoexplore
Production: @kpmediaproductions. Music: @michaelferraro_music.

Monday Nov 01, 2021
Ep. 40 Grounding in All Seasons with Dr. Laura Koniver
Monday Nov 01, 2021
Monday Nov 01, 2021
“When I talk about grounding, I’m talking about physically touching the earth. Head to toe, you are conductive, [and] the earth has an actual heartbeat.” Those are the words of Dr. Laura Koniver, who is a true expert on grounding/earthing. If you haven’t heard of this before, don’t miss out! It will quite literally, change your life!
Laura Koniver, M.D. is also known as the Intuition Physician. She says that she loves approaching health and well-being from every angle and offering the most helpful solution to her patients. She started studying and practicing medicine, and then, when her first daughter was born, she listened to her mama heart and paved her own unique path. Since then, she has grown her family, but you can also find her speaking as an expert on grounding, running online health classes, making art, writing books, designing grounding tools, and of course, grounding herself!
Some of the MANY Benefits of Grounding:
- Your brain waves go into a healing pattern
- Your muscle tension drops
- It heals inflammation in the body
- Your sleep patterns change, for the better
- It supports vagal tones
- It calms the nervous system
- It improves lungs, the heart, and so much more!!
- A study showed it helps babies in the NICU bio-regulate their temperature (Wow!!! How does everyone not know about this?!)
Ways to Ground for Those with Mobility Issues, or In Severe Weather:
- Indoor grounding options (refer to Dr. Koniver’s website)
- Ground through the hands (touch a tree in the ground, or a metal pole in the ground, or parts of the earth, like a rock)
- Touch someone else who is grounded
Dr. Koniver suggests that we recharge our bodies! Don’t fall into the rut of taking better care of your electronics, than you do your body.
To Keep Safe from Ticks While Grounding:
- Refer to episode 20, Tick Safety with 3 Moms Organics (https://kidswhoexplore.com/podcasts/ep-20-tick-safety-with-3-moms-organics/)
- Stay out of long grass
- Learn how to check for ticks after being outdoors, and what to do if you find a tick
- Chickens will eat ticks
- Use cedar oil (Cedarcide brand is what Dr. Koniver likes, or you can check out 3MomsOrganics TickWise) for yourself and your pets
- Don’t let the fear of ticks keep you from getting outside!
Grounding requires moisture and minerals! This is likely why our feet are the most sweaty part of our bodies!
Surfaces that are NOT Conductive for Grounding:
- Rubber soles
- Painted metal
- Black tar asphalt
- Dry lumber
- Artificial turf
Surfaces that ARE Conductive for Grounding:
- Sand, and play sand, if it’s on the earth, and WET!
- Grass
- Unsealed garage
- Sidewalk
- Most pipes
- Metal poles (in the ground)
- Trees
- Rocks that have been touching the earth
Dr. Koniver creates grounding products that are made of natural cotton, stainless steel, and natural materials. She makes sure her grounding materials are good for people and good for the earth.
Learn more from Dr. Laura Koniver:
Website: https://intuition-physician.myshopify.com
IG, Facebook, TikTok: @intuitionphysician
Podcast: Intuition Physician
Documentary: The Earthing Movie
Book Suggestions:
The Earth Prescription by Laura Koniver, M.D.
Only Love Today by Rachel Macy Stafford
Thank you to Sawyer for sponsoring today’s episode! Find more at https://besawyer.com
Today’s Hosts: @laurenrodycheberle & @cldowsett from @kidswhoexplore
Production: @kpmediaproductions. Music: @michaelferraro_music

Monday Oct 25, 2021
Ep. 39 Packing for Skiing and Snowboarding
Monday Oct 25, 2021
Monday Oct 25, 2021
Whether you’ve been skiing or snowboarding your whole life, or you’re new to the sport, there’s a lot more gear to pack with extra bodies. Today’s podcast will help you learn not only what to pack for winter adventures with kids, but also, some helpful tips for on the hill!
What to Pack:
- Layers (listen to episode 36, for our three layer rule: https://kidswhoexplore.com/podcasts/ep-36-the-three-layer-winter-rule/)
- Mittens
- Gear: skis/board, boots, bindings, helmet, goggles, poles
- Sled: to carry toddlers and gear
- Baby carrier: for younger siblings, if you’re watching older kids
- Snacks!
- And of course, a positive attitude!
Tips:
- When kids are younger, use wool socks underneath their mittens for extra warmth (they stay on easily)
- It’s helpful to do the same activity when you’re teaching someone who is learning, partly so you’re facing the same way, and so you can demonstrate
- Check out different ski hills for different pricing and accessibility (some ski hills, 5-year-olds and younger are free)
- Look for second hand gear for little ones, as their gear doesn’t get too worn out
- Pack the night before by laying out all the layers, and loading up the gear in the car
- Practice at home, or in a park, before you go to the slopes!
- Bring more adults, and take turns with the runs
Thank you to Morrison Outdoors for sponsoring today’s podcast! Find more at: www.morrisonoutdoors.com
Today’s Hosts: @laurenrodycheberle & @cldowsett from @kidswhoexplore
Production: @kpmediaproductions. Music: @michaelferraro_music
![Ep. 38 Bear & Wildlife Safety [in Winter] with Kim Titchener](https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/5576754/Podcast_Cover7j3mw_300x300.jpg)
Tuesday Oct 19, 2021
Ep. 38 Bear & Wildlife Safety [in Winter] with Kim Titchener
Tuesday Oct 19, 2021
Tuesday Oct 19, 2021
Did you know bears can, and do, come out of their dens in the winter? If you’re shocked, we got you covered! Wildlife Specialist, Kim Titchener, who is the Owner of Bear Safety and More, is back on the podcast for the third time to help us navigate wildlife safety in winter!
Learn about Bear Safety, Episode 5: https://kidswhoexplore.com/podcasts/ep-5-bear-safety-with-kim-titchene%E2%80%AAr%E2%80%AC/
Learn about Wildlife Safety While Camping, Episode 15: https://kidswhoexplore.com/podcasts/ep-15-wildlife-safety-while-camping-with-kim-titchener/
If you really want to see wildlife in winter, look more into the community of Churchill, Manitoba, where the community truly lives with the polar bears!
Top Safety Reminders:
- Always have bear spray accessible (not tucked away), and know how to use it
- Make lots of noise, regularly (listen to today's episode, to hear Kim’s “Zombie Voice”)
- Be alert
- Keep kids and pets close
- Teach kids: Stay safe as a group and look big, so you’re not misidentified as a “deer”
- Keep scents and food away (even think of fruit trees in the backyard if kids are playing alone in an area with wildlife)
- Carry a communication device
- Carry a first aid kit (and take a wilderness first aid class)
Think about where you are and what animals are in your area.
Hibernation Learning Time:
- You can still get attacked by bears in winter (so, don’t let down your guard in the cold)
- Bear hibernation is called “denning”
What is Bear Denning:
- Bear heart rate slows down
- Bear lives off of fat storages
- Bear stays in a very calm state (unless disturbed)
- Bear can come outside of den to cool off, or repair den from flooding
- Bear gives birth in den
How to Avoid Dens:
- Stay on the trail! Most dens will not be close to a trail
- Downhill backcountry skiiers and ice climbers are more likely to disturb a bear den, so carry bear spray
- Talk to local authorities and find out if they’ve done any denning maps
98% of people who encounter bears and administer their bear spray, walk away with no injuries. Bear spray has not been scientifically tested on other animals, but Kim has video evidence of it working on other animals, like cougars, for example.
Reminder:
- Check if you bear spray is expired
- If it is expired, call your local municipal government to find out locations that accept it, to dispose of it properly
Recommendations:
Podcast: Ologies with Alie Ward https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ologies-with-alie-ward/id1278815517
Book: The Orange Shirt Story by Phyllis Webstad
Follow Kim at:
IG: @bearsafetyadventures
Twitter: @bearconflicts
Facebook: Bear Safety and More
Learn more at: www.recsafewithwildlife.com and www.bearsafety.com
Thank you to Scat Belt for sponsoring today’s podcast! Get your Scat Belt today to always have your bear spray accessible at www.scatbelt.com and on IG: @scatbelt. Discount code is KIM for 15% off
Today’s Host: @laurenrodycheberle from @kidswhoexplore
Production: @kpmediaproductions. Music: @michaelferraro_music

Tuesday Oct 12, 2021
Ep. 37 Risky Play & Nature Education with Brittany Williams
Tuesday Oct 12, 2021
Tuesday Oct 12, 2021
How often do you catch yourself saying, “be careful”? Do our kids even know what “be careful” means? Or, do we need to be specific? Do we need to let our children take on some ‘risky play’ to explore the world and see what they are capable of? Brittany Williams is here today to give us insight on all of those questions, and so much more!
Brittany Williams is from Knoxville, Tennessee. She has worked in Early Childhood Education for around 11 years. Children are a true passion of hers – watching them grow, develop and learn to process the world around them brings her pure joy!
How to Safely Allow Risky Play (Does That Sound Like an Oxymoron?):
- Talk through and help them assess the risk
- Stay calm FOR them
- Try using constructive words, versus general words, like “be careful”
- Follow the child’s lead in their interests
“It’s about them exploring for themselves and you being on the sidelines, helping to guide if needed.”
How You Can Set Up a Good Environment:
- Don’t complain
- Bring positive energy
- Enjoy nature WITH them
- SHOW them
- Don’t force – allow for bodily autonomy
You can structure the day, or activity, and allow them to choose what they want to do within that setting.
How to Handle Toddler Tantrums:
- Accept the emotion
- Name the emotion
- Be Aware: Know when it’s going to happen
Suggested Resources:
Learning With Nature by Claire Warden
Wild Play: Parenting Adventures in the Great Outdoors by David Sobel
Follow Brittany on Instagram: @bbwilliams21
Thank you L-Bow Mittens for supporting today’s podcast! Find them on IG: @lbowgear or at www.lbow.com
Production: @kpmediaproductions. Music: @michaelferraro_music.

Monday Oct 04, 2021
EP. 36 The Three Layer Winter Rule
Monday Oct 04, 2021
Monday Oct 04, 2021
While some people have winter layers down to a science, others are new to winter, or they are new to dressing KIDS for winter. So, let’s sum up our three layer winter rule, for all ages, adults included!
Previous Winter Layer Episodes:
Episode 4: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-4-getting-outside-in-winter/id1548759798?i=1000510277939
Three Layers:
- Base Layer: We like merino wool (or wool). If the merino wool price point is not accessible, synthetic layers work too!
- Mid Layer: We like fleece
- Top Layer: We like water-resistant when they are younger, but waterproof once they are older and playing in the snow or rain
- Extra: Mitts, Toques/Beanies, Socks, Boots, Neck Warmer (fleece or merino wool - size differs between the two; merino wool is more snug)
Merino wool base layers are good for all seasons, because they keep you warm in the winter and cool in the summer [also acts as an SPF].
Babies:
- Check baby’s temperatures by feeling the temperature on the back of their neck
- When babywearing, B&Me (https://bookerandme.com) or babywearing specific layers help to keep both baby and caregiver warm
Toddlers:
- When getting to potty training/toilet learning stage, 2-piece clothing is easier than 1-piece
Older Kids:
- Set out the layers in order, so they can get themselves dressed
The stage when kids don’t want layers on:
- Try singing (even about what you’re doing)
- Use a whisper
- Keep your energy calm
Always pack extra clothes, in case anything gets wet.
-10 to -15 degrees Celcius is our limit for big adventures. Colder than that, short adventures just in the backyard.
Thank you to Sawyer for sponsoring today’s episode! https://besawyer.com
Production: @ kpmediaproductions. Music: @michaelferraro_music.

Monday Sep 27, 2021
Ep. 35 How to Ditch the Carrier with Rachel Sanchez
Monday Sep 27, 2021
Monday Sep 27, 2021
In the words of the 2-year-old Sanchez daughter, “The mountains are my home.” That is how the Sanchez family is living their lives. Today we chat with Rachel Sanchez about part-time life in a van-home, to ditching the carriers, to hiking while pregnant. KWE is proud to see a family that is allowing nature to help raise their kids!
The Sanchez Family, is a multicultural family based in Utah, USA. They have three little girls and a little boy on the way. They love being outdoors as a family and feel it is the best way to experience life and all that the earth has to offer. They use the outdoors as their favorite parenting tool to teach many of life's important lessons from strength and courage, to kindness and gentleness. Inclusion and diversity in the outdoors is important for Rachel, and her husband, to show her daughters!
How They Make Their Van-Home Feel Like Home:
- Allow each girl to have a drawer in the van that is their own
- Let them bring their favourite items from home
- Her girls are most comfortable in the van in close proximity, especially sleeping
How They Ditch the Child Carriers:
- They decide the carrier isn’t their go-to, and they never tell their kids to get in the carrier
- They expect that the kids will hike [They’ve seen it benefit them so much and foster independence!]
- Carrier has never been a punishment or a necessity, even if they are “going too slow”
- They let them get in and out, as much as they want!
- They choose shorter hikes when they need to
Advice for Hiking While Pregnant:
- Listen to your body and how far you want to go
- Trust yourself
- If pregnant with carrier, wear your pack properly with waist strap buckled, and belly band
- Close to end of pregnancy, maybe avoid using the carrier/hiking pack
- Bring someone along to carry kids
Book Recommendation: Wild Vet Adventures: Saving Animals Around the World with Dr. Gabby Wild
Follow the Sanchez Family on IG: @beboldlittleones
Thank you to Morrison Outdoors for supporting today’s podcast! Find more at: www.morrisonoutdoors.com
Production: @kpmediaproductions. Music: @michaelferraro_music.

Monday Sep 20, 2021
Ep. 34 What If Your Kid Doesn‘t Like the Outdoors with Kika Vila-Nova
Monday Sep 20, 2021
Monday Sep 20, 2021
What if your kid doesn’t like getting outdoors? There’s still hope, at any age…and Kika Vila-Nova is here to share that with us! Her 12-year-old daughter has finally embraced her mama’s love for the outdoors. Tune in to hear tips on helping your child embrace nature, plus hear some great Utah recommendations!
Kika Vila-Nova moved to the USA from Brazil in 2001 to pursue a Master's Degree in Chlidren's Theatre. She fell in love with Utah and all the diverse landscape and that is where she has chosen to raise her 12-year-old daughter. Kika loves to shares their adventures, life as an immigrant and a single mom exploring Utah.
Some Utah Recommendations:
- Salt Lake City
- Zion National Park
- Canyon Meadows Park
- Moab
- Lake Powell
- Bear Lake State Park
- Goblin Valley State Park
How to Help Your Kid LIKE Going Outside:
- Be persistent
- Take your time…take as many breaks as kids want!
- Put the kid in charge of something (evaluate your kids’ personalities)
- Let them take pictures
- Teach them about nature!
- Provide snacks!
- Bring friends
- Make it a game…a little bit at a time
Recommendation: Think Like a Monk by Jay Shetty
Follow Kika on IG: @kikassadventures
Check out KWE’s #patch4apurpose to support 1, or all 8, charities:
https://kidswhoexplore.com/product/original-explorer-patch4apurpose/
Production: @kpmediaproductions. Music: @michaelferraro_music.
